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Posted: 1 month ago by stinkobinko:
Interesting. It would be a good questions to ask Roddenberry's wife. She's still alive, right?
edit. Oh I guess not. thx binbo. (below)
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Posted: 1 month ago by mennufer:
I'm not sure I get his point. Yes, many of the commandments are represented in Star Trek. But does the condemning of, say, murder prove that Roddenberry had to have been religious? How about the depiction of other faiths? Holy days are common in many faiths, not just Christianity, so how is their presence in Star Trek proof of the influence of the Ten Commandments?
His examples don't really support his argument, either. Kirk being forced to destroy a god-like computer is not "You Shall Not Have Any Other Gods Before Me." Ben Sisko teaching his son tolerance and respect of other religions is not "You Shall Not Take the Name of the Lord Your God in Vain." Spock saving his father's life is not "Honor Your Father and Mother."
Overall, this article is a prime example of the bad science of picking and choosing evidence to support a theory instead of developing a theory based on all evidence on hand.
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Posted: 1 month ago by bingo:
« stinkobinko : Interesting. It would be a good questions to ask Roddenberry's wife. She's still alive, right? No
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Posted: 1 month ago by bingo:
« mennufer : I'm not sure I get his point. Yes, many of the commandments are represented in Star Trek. But does the condemning of, say, murder prove that Roddenberry had to have been religious? How about the depiction of other faiths? Holy days are common in many faiths, not just Christianity, so how is their presence in Star Trek proof of the influence of the Ten Commandments?
His examples don't really support his argument, either. Kirk being forced to destroy a god-like computer is not "You Shall Not Have Any Other Gods Before Me." Ben Sisko teaching his son tolerance and respect of other religions is not "You Shall Not Take the Name of the Lord Your God in Vain." Spock saving his father's life is not "Honor Your Father and Mother."
Overall, this article is a prime example of the bad science of picking and choosing evidence to support a theory instead of developing a theory based on all evidence on hand. You are looking at it too hard, I think.
Gene Roddenberry never said or meant any of this.
I think if you want to, you could find a commandment in most any story with a moral.
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Posted: 1 month ago by mennufer:
« bingo : You are looking at it too hard, I think.
Gene Roddenberry never said or meant any of this. This was pretty much my whole point. The author picked whatever plot points he could find that related to the Ten Commandments and cited them as proof that the Ten Commandments were inherent principles (or something - still unclear on what his point was) in Star Trek, regardless of the actual meaning of said plot points.
I think if you want to, you could find a commandment in most any story with a moral.
Very true. The ideals the commandments represent are far from being exclusive to Christianity. It doesn't take a cardinal to realize that screwing over other people is a bad thing to do.
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Posted: 1 month ago by Dontgivethedogchoccy:
It's asinine to think that up until Mount Sinai that the Jews thought that murder, theft and adultery were all fine. They wouldn't have made it to the point they had if they had thought this.
As usual, George said it best
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